Probably wouldn't be appropriate to mention my almost incomplete trailer project then, would it?
Nah, didn't think so. Was hoping to get some tips from you guys too..... more delays then

 

You're in NZ, so go with whatever your regs say.

You can still tell us about it though.

 

I'm sorry to see this outcome after so much work, you obviously have skills.
You know this could be a good base for a stretched 5 then you would'nt need the trailer?

 

Glad u didn't give up ur project hope to see u in some shows with it.

 

Di..... did you read anything at all in the last couple of posts?

 

Who'd have thought the eunos would be 'different' to the mx5. Thats why

Shame to see this mike, real shame, buh like u said, live and learn ehh

 

why didnt you look into its legality before you started?

 

its a shame you found out too late.i said id buy the roller.what a waste of a 5 shell.

i dont know why you dont just continue with it, and use it.

 

i dont know why you dont just continue with it, and use it.

Err, because it would be illegal?
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I gave some advice on a similar topic on another public forum and I caused all sorts of shit. All I'll say is if you want the mx5 trailer keep doing it and find the answer to your problem- it IS there. It's not illegal, it's just frowned upon.
That all I'll say.
Gutted you have had to stop work I was looking forward to seeing it done.

 

Birdbath made from Dodo

Have a birdbath.



So yeah, it's been a long while since I updated this blog, mostly on account of me waiting for Mazda UK to get back to me. It turns out, after checking an email account I don't use all that often, that they did get back to me in July. Oops.

Anyway, without beating about the bush, Project TailDragger is officially dead. The long and short of it is that a technical type person by the name of Dean at Mazda UK has trawled technical documentation he has available and also contacted his equivalent in Mazda Europe and Mazda Japan to see if he could source the information required. All credit to Dean, he really did explore all avenues for information. Sadly, nothing was forthcoming and Mazda UK aren't willing to put into writing that the Eunos Roadster is capable of towing, which I suppose is fair enough. In fact, he even said that he couldn't see anything to say the Mazda MX-5 is type approved for towing in the UK, but that's another thing. Anyone hoping to undertake a similar project in the UK would have to check the towing weights on the V5, regardless of what car you drive, just to be sure the information is there. If weights are listed, you're golden. If not, you're shit out of luck I'm afraid.

Yes yes, I know, I should have checked all of this before I chopped a car in half, yadda yadda etc. etc. I didn't think for a minute that I'd have this much of a problem with the legalities of it, so ner. You live, you learn.

So yeah, I have two halves of an MX-5 sat on the driveway that need shifting because I have no need for a birdbath made of Dodos. I'll part out what remains unless anyone want to build an MX-Trailer and can't be arsed to cut another car in half…?

 

Yeah thats what i meant, the turbo running gear is going in another 5 but that other 5 will be british and i will put the gv rear on it and take the uk numberplate plinth off. The bbr is uk anyway, doesn't matter but it is.
Why couldn't putting a uk rear panel on a eunos work, thats a wonderful idea

 

Stupid dvla, does bribing the person on the phone not do anything but by the time that you speak to everyone in the dvla that might get expensive.
And the one annoying things with the iva test is that every edge will have to be covered etc....
So we need to get a uk 5 for the bbr donor then and just put a jap rear on the it (or a gv actually

) to get past the towing regulations, at least i know that now and not after.
Hope you get some where with them.

 

So we need to get a uk 5 for the bbr donor then and just put a jap rear on the it (or a gv actually

) to get past the towing regulations, at least i know that now and not after.

No, it's the towing car that needs to be UK (or at least have a maximum permissible towing weight stated on the V5C). It doesn't matter what the trailer is cut from providing it passes the IVA inspection.
Putting a UK numberplate plinth onto a towing Eunos isn't going to get around the issue either

 

It never rains, it pours…

The utterly bollocks weather we've been having for what seems like forever had stopped play for the most part and, now that the weather is suitable for working, other things are conspiring to force the project to a halt.

My problem is a somewhat large hurdle in the shape of legislation that are increasingly likely to end up being a rather large nail in TailDragger's stillborn coffin.

The primary issue I have is that Yuki, my car, is a Eunos Roadster and therefore imported. Her V5C has nothing listed in Section O (technical permissible maximum towable mass of the trailer) under either section O.1 (braked) or O.2 (unbraked) and the DVLA require a letter from Mazda to confirm the vehicle is rated to tow and what its limit would be (500kgs for the Mk1 with no type approval for the Mk2/3, according to various Google sources) to change it.

I contacted Mazda UK a couple of weeks ago and they got back to me yesterday. The guy doing some digging around for me has contacted his counterpart in Mazda Japan and they've replied to say that maximum towing weights aren't required to be declared in Japan and are therefore not on any Eunos documentation that they've uncovered thus far. He's going to do some more digging and asking about but it's not looking good. It might be possible to get Mazda to make a declaration along the lines of "Whilst the Eunos Roadster has no specific limits listed in its own documentation in relation to maximum permissible towing weights, it is technically identical to a UK specification MX-5 which has type approved for towing Nkgs", but I suspect they'd not be willing to put that into writing for me or, if they did, that the DVLA would not be happy with it. Time will tell.

I also contacted the Department for Transport (DfT) today and they categorically stated that if no weights are listed then the vehicle is not approved for towing. Fucking arses! (Yes yes, I know. I should have checked all of this before I started. Yadda yadda.)

If anyone reading this has any definitive technical information relating to Eunos Roadster towing weights, or you have a Mk1 1.8 Roadster that has towing weights listed on the V5C, please get in contact!

The other 'issue' I have encountered, which is less of a problem and more an annoyance, is that new legislation is coming in on the 29th October 2012 that requires all new trailers to have a normal Individual Vehicle Approval (IVA) check and, I presume, carry a VIN style plate that would contain various information such as a chassis number of some description along with gross and net weights etc. The legislation will also affect anything built in the three month period prior to that date, which gives me less than two days to get the trailer built before it falls into the time frame where it requires testing! No chance. Information regarding IVA checks and the requirements for them are listed here and will need to be followed should anyone else be stupid brave enough to follow what I'm doing in the UK. It'll cost £70 for the check. Gone are the days, it seems, where someone can hobble something together on their driveway and just use it. It's probably a good thing mind, but it doesn't half get up my tits.

So, TailDragger is currently on hold until I such time as I can convince the DVLA that Yuki is able to tow stuff without exploding through a busload of nuns, kittens and school children.

 

This is awesome.

I'm sure I saw a MK2 Golf BBQ once that could be trailered around.

Like.

 

Thanks!

BBQ trailers are quite commonplace. There's certainly a 200SX S13 arse end being dragged about with a BBQ in the boot; I know, I've eaten from it.

 

Well, I've already considered getting another bootlid and either welding them together to make one large one or chopping the rear lip (where the brake light goes) off and using it as a separate lid at the front end of the trailer with it being hinged in the centre like the original one (think of the original mirrored). I'm unsure exactly how I'm going to proceed with that although I'll need some way to access the forward area so I need to think about how I'll do it. Either way will need to be properly sealed to prevent the trailer contents and electrics getting soaked.

 

that would be pretty nice though, if you did have the chance to do that you could graft (SP?) the two boot lids and hinge them sideways....

still im sure it'll look awesome what ever you do!

 

It certainly does look neat and not too dissimilar to the blue trailer on the blog/in the OP. However, it would require me cutting two MX-5s in half and I have neither the time, space nor money to do that.

 

Another idea, which would (maybe) increase the capacity and probably be easier fabrication-wise (bit more expensive as you would need the back end of 2 MX5s...)

- leave the "front" bumper on (could get rid of the internal supports, tow hooks, fog light, etc.)
- put orange reflectors on the front, red on the rear
- remove the "front" lights and smooth in what was the number plate panel and light area
- join up the two back ends with some internal bracing, then join the outer panels (might need to add a strip between the two boot hing sides and adjust the inside of the boots as before e.g. drop the floor into the exhaust box area, remove panels between the two boots
- A bar or T bar through front bumper to the towing cup

Looks neat!

 

Ooh this looks interesting. Personally I like the idea of incorporating the nose cone if you can blend it while continuing the curve of the nose and not having a big angle. How about welding back the rear third of the doors to the rear body and filling the gap, then you could have the sides looking more like the belong. then cut off at an angle to suit. Then you could panel in between the nose and the rest with minimum curvature necessary.

What are you going to do with what was the rear shelf area? Could you saw off the fuel tank hump and have a flat floor area? Maybe cut through to the original boot area to increase space, if it wouldn't weaken the structure too much?

Or, a bit off the wall here, have a section between the nose and the body hinging so it flips forward (to upright or whatever). Add a flat top with a turned over edge to fit over and round the original rear edge of the shelf area (i.e. where the soft top used to join the body) and make that hinge backwards. A gas strut or two and Robert's your mum's brother. Make on or both of the refitting door bits (as above) rear hinged instead of welded in. Final bit: panel out the rear shelf area and fit it with seat padding and a wraparound backrest, then you've got somewhere to sit when you go for a picnic, etc.

Or, final final idea: as above, but fit some small steering scooter wheels that aren't visible because what was the rear of the seat floor, add a steering column, put a small motorbike engine and tank in the boot, and IVA it like an Edd China-mobile? http://www.cummfybanana.com/

OK, I'm done.

Simon

 

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Me and cribbohx are hopefully going to be doing exactly the same with the rocket as if you might have seen it had a front end smash and it is unroadworthy and the shell has to be scrapped, but the rear is fine and the sills have been done recently so I have decided to chop it in half and make it into a trailer (such as what your doing) for shows (original reg will go on the back of it when at shows) and then the rocket will always be with us.
Anyway good luck on the project and i'll be watching with great interest.

 

Me and cribbohx are hopefully going to be doing exactly the same with the rocket

At the rate this one is going at, you'll be done before me!

I have plenty of plans for mine and not enough time/weather/money at the moment. I'm also not sure how my welding skills will fare so we'll have to wait and see how adventurous I feel with it! The electronics are causing me some bother at the moment and I'm trying to figure out how I can put it together without making an MX-5 shaped fire on the driveway.

Humbug> Thanks for the suggestions. As yet, I'm unsure how it's exactly going to be finished so I guess I'll just have to start pottering and see where it gets me. I'm certainly planning to put a battery in to run some electrics (light, coolbox, that sort of thing) and I'm thinking the best thing to do there is to locate it as low and forward as I can. It'll probably have its own separate access panel for easy access to the battery itself (for removal) and to the fuses.

As for the fuel tank hump, for simplicity's sake I'll be chopping that out and using the existing boot floor as the base level. The only bit lower than that will be a dropped box section at the rear of the boot (above where the exhaust sits) that will contain the coolbox and possibly a few other things of use. Even with the floor only at the original level of the boot and the sides tubbed inline with the narrowest part of the boot I'm still doubling the boot capacity. I might be able to get creative with some cutting/bracing/tubbing and get even more space but time will have to tell with that one.

It's highly unlikely it'll be making it to JAE, which is a bit of a disappointment as I really wanted Mrs Fish to come along and there's very very little chance of that without the trailer.

 

And then there were two?

Today is the day set aside for chopping the car in half. It started off on a promise too. The forecast for the day, whilst not bright sunshine, was certainly better than the rest of the week. Tuesday it?s due to rain, as is? well, just about every day going forward. So, the weather was on my side. All I needed to go was pick up the angle grinder I?d kindly been lent by Neuromatic?s step father and I was away to go.

Except it didn?t really pan out that way to start. Y?see, the grinder I had borrowed, a substantial thing that runs on 110V, took 180mm (7? in old money) discs. B&Q didn?t stock any, they only had 125mm or 230mm and bigger. Same case at Wickes. And Homebase. And Screwfix. I knew I was scuppered when the guy behind the counter at fucking Screwfix didn?t have 180mm discs listed in the catalogue. Arsepockets. At this point, Mrs Fish phoned to tell me that Dr. Taff from Barryboys had arrived avec axles stands to lend a hand. I hadn?t realised that I had, at this point, been out of the house for two hours potching about looking for discs. How does that happen?!

So, after some discussion back at home and having realised that the task of chopping the car into bits was only the first of many jobs that would require a grinder, I decided to fuck it all and just buy my own one. I had remembered seeing a beefy 230mm grinder for about ?45 in Homebase so Dr. Taff and I headed out in The Fiesta of Ponderous to go and get it. Only there wasn?t any in stock. Cock. Out comes the phone, I poke Google with my finger and it tells me B&Q has the same size grinder for ?40. Score! Off we trot, get the grinder and a 5-pack of discs and, after a 2nd trip back in to get an extension lead, we headed back suitably tooled up.

Some lunch was eaten and we set about stripping a few more things off the car before we started. The handbrake cable had to be removed. Not entirely sure how they?re supposed to come apart so we just chopped the bastard in half. It was probably broken anyway. Doors were also pulled off, as was the front bumper and remaining wing. The garden was starting to look like a pikey campsite. Next up came the fun task of getting the axle stands under the car. I already had two pairs and borrowed another from my father. Dr. Taff brought a forth set meaning we could prop the car up in the correct spaces. Last thing I wanted whilst cutting was for the car to fold in on itself and trap the blade. After a lot of faffing about trying to get it sitting equally on all four pairs of stands, we finally got it sitting nice and steady with a set of four axle stands supporting each corner of what would soon become two separate parts.

Doors and wing off?


Axle stands in place (finally)?


Safe working practises?

(That was actually on standby just in case any of the sparks happened to set fire to the carpet still in the car)

And so it begins?

The dog watched on?


Whilst it turns out the floorpan of an MX-5 is thin and buttery to the angle grinder, the sills were a little more substantial. Witness the shower of sparks generated?
(please see the blog update, too many media links)

Cutting the other side?
(please see the blog update, too many media links)

Amazingly, I didn?t cut my leg off. Nor did Dr. Taff who also had a go waving the angle grinder about. He also couldn?t cut the last inch of the heat shield I had forgotten to take off?
(please see the blog update, too many media links)

After a lot of cutting (and some swearing) later, there was a parting of ways?

Then some sillyness...


Ooh ooer?


So there you are! I now have two MX-2.5s. There are a few more odds and sods to remove from the arse end, mostly door latches and interior light switches etc. but for the most part I now need to look at what I have carefully and decide what I want to cut and where. With the front bumper off, I showed Taff an idea that I had had but couldn?t really envisage until the car was in bits?





It?s obviously no-where near lined up and I need to have a damn good think about how I want it to look overall and whether the front bumper works or not, but it?s given me a good idea of how it should turn out. What are your thoughts? Blend the front bumper into the front end of the trailer or not?

Perhaps it should be Hellastanced instead?


Aquafresh. Or something.

 

2nd June ehh? I've got a feeling there may be something going on that evening so don't get too knackered....

 

Moar progress. MOAR!

Saturday was another bad day for my muscles. Already aching from Friday?s antics I was keen to make use of the good weather and get more done. Having hit a fair milestone previously I had no real goal other than getting the fuel tank off and removing as much as I could from the rear end (fnarr!).

First thing I did was to empty the interior of the car out given it was full of various bits of trim and shit, as well as pulling Yuki?s crash helmet off, which has been on since the roof was sold. Whilst pulling the seats out, I noted the aftermarket speaker wire attached to the underside of them.



I?d noticed it before but not really thought much about it. Today, for some reason, it stood out and piqued my curiosity. So, I unzipped the headrest and found these?




Nice! A quick Googlebash of them seems to suggest they?re discontinued and only worth about ?15 but still, they?re better than the utterly fucked OEM ones Yuki currently has so they?ll be put into her when I have some bothered.

At this point, I?d already dropped Neuromantic a text to see if he was free to lend a hand so, whilst I waited for him to arrive, I faffed about removing some stuff from the boot. The wiring loom for the rear lights, which runs down the N/S of the fuel tank, was removed and stowed out of the way in the passenger compartment. I?ll be chopping that off the main loom somewhere as I want to keep it to make wiring the lights in on the trailer a simple task. I also disconnected and removed the filler neck assembly?



?as well as the fuel cap release cable and mechanism. There was also a band expander attached to the aerial which was removed?



After faffing with all that, Neuro arrived and we set about dropping the tank. There were only 4 bolts holding it on which were easy enough to undo, allowing me to gently lower the tank using the N/S rear hook to suspend it whilst Neuro disconnected some wires/pipes still attached to the tank. Once free, it was dropped out entirely.





This left a fair amount of space?




After that, I set about removing the forward plastic arch liners, the fuel filter cover, the fuel filter, handbrake cables and other pipes leading to the back end. I was quite surprised to note that there was only one brake line leading to the rear and into a splitter to divide between the two calipers. Most cars that have a split braking system split to diagonal wheels. Well, assuming the MX-5 does split the braking system at all. I guess it splits front/rear, which seems an odd concept. There were also three lines for fuel. Meh.

Next up, I removed the PPF. I was quite happy to find that the mounting to the back of the gearbox was a lot easier to remove than that on the diff?. Two large bolts were undone and the PPF simply pulled off once the wiring loom attached to it was unclipped?

My original thought was to use the PPF as the tongue ? the bit the tow hitch is mounted to ? for the trailer. As you can see above, the diff? end (2nd picture) doglegs slightly so I?m not sure if I?ll be able to use it. Plus it?s aluminium so welding it isn?t really an option. It might also be too long. I need to offer it up to the subframe once the car is in half to see how it?ll all work. I may end up deciding to ditch the subframe and PPF entirely, opting instead to weld up a new subframe and tongue out of box steel. We?ll see.

After the PPF was removed, I set about tidying up the various other bits still attached to the car. I also propped the engine back up using Safe Working Practices?



So that?ll be a bit of wood under the cat? then.

Whilst pulling shit off I had also noted that there were some significant patches of rust forming on the rear sills and inside the rear arch at the sill. So, I poked about with a screwdriver and now regret doing so?

The outside edge of the sill on the O/S, whilst bubbling, is still reasonably solid. The inside of the arch is holed?



The N/S though is a lot worse on the outside edge, being mostly fucked?




However, the inside edge seemed pretty solid?


It?ll require more investigation once it?s cut in half. I suspect it?ll need a decent amount of welding to tidy up. Bollocks.

Here?s a random picture of next door?s cat (one of about four!) resting in the shade under the hard top?


So, by this point Neuro had sloped off to visit his father but, whilst he was here, I?d noted that I could lift the back end of the car off the axle stands due to the weight of the engine being forward of the front axle stands. It wasn?t really easy to lift but it wasn?t a struggle either so I was wary about working under the car and avoided going under it if at all possible. So, the seatbelt catches were removed from the transmission tunnel inside the car as well as various little bits of wiring and plastic grommets/clips. The pipes and cables on the rear were removed as much as possible and bent out of the way where I couldn?t easily get to them.

That?s left this?

View of the boot?


Inside the cabin?




Left side of the fuel tank area looking into the boot?


?and the right side?


Top view (taken whilst stood inside the boot)?


And underneath?


Finally, how she stands at present?


So, this means?

IT?S READY TO BE CUT!

First though, I need to procure some extra axle stands to support both ends properly whilst it?s being cut. I?ll need another pair under the front subframe to take the weight at that end and a second pair at the rear of the arse end to take the weight of that when it?s cut in half. Plus I need to hire a large disc cutter to actually chop it in half. I think I?ll also remove the rear bumper to prevent it being damaged as I?ll likely need to move it around whilst planning/welding/chopping stuff.
I?m pencilling in this coming Saturday (2nd June) for the actual cutting although that will be entirely weather dependant.

Watch this space.

 

Plus I need to hire a large disc cutter to actually chop it in half.

Go to aldi/lidl/netto and see if you can find a cheap 9" grinder?
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Or ask me to borrow my step fathers 11" makita

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Oooh, that'd be awesome! There would be beer tokens in it for him.

 

Nice one.

I had the same issue with exhaust removal on a uk model. I bent the cat then sold it to a local scrappy for ?50

 

New toys, nice weather and decent progress.

Following what I felt was a reasonably productive day, I had already made the concious decision that today I would do some decent work on the car. However, I needed to buy another pair of axle stands.

A few weeks back I had found some nifty folding axle stands for a tenner in Lidl and bought them. Don?t worry, they?re perfectly safe! They?re designed as such that the centre tube rests on the ground when they?re open and takes the majority of the weight put on to them. The legs are just there to keep it upright. Besides, they?re fully TUV marked and that?s an industry standard, right? Anyway, I headed back there after work to pick up another pair. After a solid 10 minutes of wandering about their Random Tat section I couldn?t find them. It seems with Lidl that if you see what you think is a damn good bargain, buy it now because they won?t have it in store in a week.

Annoyed, I popped over the road to see what Halfrauds were charging on the offchance it was reasonable. After being directed to the right place I scoured the shelves. Starting at the bottom of the price range are bog-standard solid 2-tonne axle stands weighing in (hurr) at ?20. Next up is the slightly fatter rigid 3-tonne cousin at a cool ?30. Bawls. There were some other ratcheted jobbies there too but the price was even steeper for those things. I also nosed at the trolley jacks. Having moved out of my parent?s earlier in the year, I didn?t have access to the shiny tools there and didn?t have my own trolley jack. They were ?37 and ?32 for cased and uncased (respectively) 2-tonne examples. There were bigger fancier versions, but meh. Then, out of the corner of my eye I spot this?



Shiny shine! The price for that little lot was ?50 (reduced from around ?90 originally) and it contains; A 2-tonne trolley jack, a pair of 2-tonne rigid axle stands, a thingy you lie on that has wheels on it, a footpump, two wheel jocks, a wheel brace and a digital pressure gauge. Sold!

I get back home and promptly grab my other toys and get playing. First task, get the car up in the air and get the wheels off. Fuck me, what a faff that turned out to be! One of the front wheel nuts just would not come off. It was on hard enough that when trying to pry it off with a rather long bar, it span the wheel when it was sat on the ground with the full weight on it. After many attempts at trying and the wheel spinning, I decided to film it as proof of my amazing strength. Or something. This happened?

?Fucking typical?

So, wheel off and the car in the air, I get to work. But not before I?ve unboxed all of my shiny new toys and taken a photo of them?


With the car in the air, I have a nose about and decide to set myself a goal for the evening; Remove the rear subframe. A reasonable goal. I have a nose about and immediately notice that one of the rear springs doesn?t look right?






Nice! You?ll also note how it?s twisting to the one side as a result of the break and coming close to fouling the shock body. And people wonder why I get particularly shitty on Nutz when they exclaim they?ll be running some ?100 eBay coilovers when OEM springs fucking snap through age/fatigue.

Before I could contemplate removing the subframe, I had to get the exhaust off. Splitting at the cat? made sense so I got under the car on my new trolley and proceeded to round three of the four nuts holding the cat? on. TOTAL ARSES! Luckily though, one did come off and deciding that the exhaust was bollocksed enough that it wouldn?t be worth selling, I just opted for brute force and pig ignorance to pry the bastard loose. It bent the flanges on both the exhaust and cat? but it looks like they?re both shagged I didn?t care much.

A mostly fucked cat??




Le Exhaust


With that out of the way, I was free to get at the subframe to remove it. After investigation, I was surprised to note that a mere 6 bolts hold the entire arse end of the car on. They were a pig to undo, mostly due to corrosion on the pair of outer studs & nuts on either side, but the biggest issue by far was getting the PPF off the diff?. Quite why Mazda decided to use some caps that go through the PPF and into the diff? housing as well as some honking great bolts I don?t know but they did it and I?ve given myself mild tinnitus hitting the bastards with hammers. Ho hum.

They came off eventually and, after a lot of wriggling about, tugging and swearing, it all came away from the car. Unfortunately, the driveshaft, previously undone, didn?t part from the rear at the diff? as planned. No, the other end came out of the arse end of the gearbox and it started spewing oil/mongbox fluid out onto the driveway. There was some more swearing and Kitty litter was put down to absorb it.

TADA!




With that all off, I had a quick nose under the car. It?s pretty solid but there are some patches of rust which will be looked at at a later date.



Not realising previously that the whole engine and gearbox was being twisted down by the PPF dangling free, I found something to support it. Wood, actually.



It?s all about the safe working practices y?see.

So, goal achieved and a fairly major milestone in the project reached! Next tasks will be to pull the tank and associated wiring/piping off as well as removing the brake lines, PPF and possibly the front section of the exhaust. The interior will also need looking at as the dash needs to come out to remove the carpet, although I could just pull that out of the way if push comes to shove. Once that?s done, it?s just about cutting time. I had wanted to get the whole shell stripped but I?m running out of time so I can fanny about with that at a later date.

Here?s a parting shot of how she stood at the end of the day?

 

Ahh, awesome. Thanks. Hopefully I'll be able to get the dash out later.

 

you need to drop the steering column as that is attatched to the bottom of the dash, once thats out you should be fine

 

Hmm. The four side screws (two each side) are out as are the four at the bottom of the centre console. I didn't realise there was one in the middle (well Neuromantic told me there was earlier today but that was of no use to me yesterday!). Oddly, the dash still feels very secure at the edges. I'm trying not to damage it as I want to try and sell it on.