[Ludford]

£40 an hr, err how bout no. £15-20 is about right,

Are the bodyshops you go to by any chance located in the 1980s? :rofl:

 

[penarthmx5parts]

ok found and turned the wires the other way and did some lines





now do they look better i think so. :yes:

 

[Dr Eunos]

Tidy Butt :thumb-up:

 

[Driftmonkey]

It's a man in his garden, not a garage.
If it was a garage with overheads, accountants, stock blah blah then yes it would be well over £40 an hr, but it's not. No need to be trolly mr ludford.
That's the ticket!
Personally I've never used a joggling tool on steel bodywork, only on aluminium in my old job, but the next time I need to do some repairs on a car(soon my friend has a rusty mk2) I will buy one, probably the cheapest one I can, just helps the finish, loads less filler needed, more like a
Flush join. So will make it a quicker job to do.
Keep up the good work.
Wish I had your tilter tho, bet that makes it loads easier.

 

[penarthmx5parts]

Tidy Butt :thumb-up:

thank you Dr..

It's a man in his garden, not a garage.
If it was a garage with overheads, accountants, stock blah blah then yes it would be well over £40 an hr, but it's not. No need to be trolly mr ludford.
That's the ticket!
Personally I've never used a joggling tool on steel bodywork, only on aluminium in my old job, but the next time I need to do some repairs on a car(soon my friend has a rusty mk2) I will buy one, probably the cheapest one I can, just helps the finish, loads less filler needed, more like a
Flush join. So will make it a quicker job to do.
Keep up the good work.
Wish I had your tilter tho, bet that makes it loads easier.

i will take that as a complement i think... so thank you..

the tilter is great shame i cant get it under the cover on the gravel which is were i had to do this car as we had wind and rain all day here. so she was just up on axle stands

and as you said im 1 man in his garden welding a few 5s not a Real garage so wouldn't dream of charging £40.00 per hour

however im hopping in 6 months when i close the kitchen fitting business i own and start fixing 5s for a living

1 man in his garden will be enough we will see..

however iv seen big garages just slamming on crappy squares of steel over rusty sills with no prep/curing of inner rust or for that mater cutting the rot out

and charging stupid prices for the service. this car came from a garage i actually use... the owner of that garage was going to charge this cars owner over £150 to weld solid plates on top of the rust for the mot as thats the industry way to sort this kind of repair unless you have some kind of respect for a 5.

it was only luck for him ( maybe in my opinion only) that i had put one of my cards on his window.

any way james is collecting his car tomorrow night and we will see if he is happy with the work i have done.

pictures will be given to him to show what went on in the repair, and when i tell him i would like £100 for the work i have done if he thinks it is not worth that i he can pay what he feels is right and take his car.

 

[Bad2Tbone]

You get sweet FA done for £100 these days. Doesn't even buy me and the missus a decent meal out.

I do homers for people. I aim for about £125 a day. For a more technical day I might increase it. For a less challenging day or less hours I may decrease it. Bottom line is you are selling yourself short at £100. Unless it's my car then I think you might be a bit on the steep side ;-).

I believe in giving value for money. £100 would be mates rates. A bit more would see you working less and buying the extra few tools you might need. If I do a job for someone and need a special tool for the job I would usually try to include part of that cost in the bill. I did a large tiling job and bought a heavy duty tile cutter to ease the burden. My final bill had a little extra to help cover the cost of the cutter. Clients were very happy with end result and even paid a few quid more than asked. I made the job easier with a heavy duty tile saw and have used it many times since.

Just my tuppence.

 

[Driftmonkey]

Yup, there's a compliment in there.
Deffo better job than most 'back street' garages.
Like you say the mot welder will just slap it on the top. Shocking really.

 

[penarthmx5parts]

You get sweet FA done for £100 these days. Doesn't even buy me and the missus a decent meal out.

I do homers for people. I aim for about £125 a day. For a more technical day I might increase it. For a less challenging day or less hours I may decrease it. Bottom line is you are selling yourself short at £100. Unless it's my car then I think you might be a bit on the steep side ;-).

I believe in giving value for money. £100 would be mates rates. A bit more would see you working less and buying the extra few tools you might need. If I do a job for someone and need a special tool for the job I would usually try to include part of that cost in the bill. I did a large tiling job and bought a heavy duty tile cutter to ease the burden. My final bill had a little extra to help cover the cost of the cutter. Clients were very happy with end result and even paid a few quid more than asked. I made the job easier with a heavy duty tile saw and have used it many times since.

Just my tuppence.

Well said and I agree 90% of the money I make at the moment goes back into buying tools.

 

[penarthmx5parts]

Yup, there's a compliment in there.
Deffo better job than most 'back street' garages.
Like you say the mot welder will just slap it on the top. Shocking really.

Please dont think i was having a rant at you drift.
But the mot patchet man and the 80.00 per hour or more charge most garages think they can charge for shitty jobs like servicing.brake pad and disk changing is why I started offering my services in the first place.

For eg. Guy across the road from me has a fiat and whent to the main dealer to have his pads and discs changed they wanted 400 inc parts to do the job...that's disgusting. We dont usually talk much but as he new i do work on cars he asked if I could help.so last Friday night I fitted them and charged him cost for the parts 80.00 and 20.00 to fit them all done in less then 1 hour. He is now my biggest fan.

 

[Driftmonkey]

I used to when I had a decent sized garage, but moved and now don't have the room, it's more a workshop now(read tiny single garage) I charged 20 an hr for spannering, never did welding, only ever done welding on my own car. I used to reinvest the money straight back in tools or parts, so never saw the cash anyway!

 

[g40jon]

thumbs up on the finished article! Looks very good indeed

 

[Hexa-dB]

Kitchen fitter as well....?

Hmm I could get you to fit our kitchen and tackle the rust on my sills at the same time

 

[Knacker]

Id expect to pay £125/150, Looks good I think.

 

[penarthmx5parts]

thumbs up on the finished article! Looks very good indeed

Thank you just hope the owner thinks so..

Kitchen fitter as well....?

Hmm I could get you to fit our kitchen and tackle the rust on my sills at the same time

im trying to get away from fitting kitchens i have been doing it for 20 years now and iv had enough to be honest

cant wait to be working with 5s instead

Id expect to pay £125/150, Looks good I think.

that's what i wanted to hear i thought 100 to 150 would be a good price and like i said i don't want to be greedy but also i don't want to under sell myself either

 

[Driftmonkey]

I think £125-£150

 

[Skuzzle]

I'd expect to pay more, but I'd also expect the weld to be a bit more penetrating. For the price you guys are talking its a.nice job and most would be happy. The main thing is its fresh metal and all has been treated... plus it looks more factory than what you'd usually pay he same price for an mot style patch.
Good work, but get a gas setup and you instantly find its neater, stronger and a hell of a lot quicker.

 

[Driftmonkey]

Now that the welders set up right

 

[13757]

£15 an hour!? :O

Drop me a PM, I'm local(ish) and tbh nothing looks worse than rust so I don't really care how you weld or how they look.. aslong as the rust goes and doesn't come back!

 

[penarthmx5parts]

I think £125-£150

thanks drift i charged him 120 in the end. like i have said i dont want to be greedy

I'd expect to pay more, but I'd also expect the weld to be a bit more penetrating. For the price you guys are talking its a.nice job and most would be happy. The main thing is its fresh metal and all has been treated... plus it looks more factory than what you'd usually pay he same price for an mot style patch.
Good work, but get a gas setup and you instantly find its neater, stronger and a hell of a lot quicker.

thank you Skuzzle i appreciate your input, i tried gas mig when i bought the welder but its always windy on my drive even on a still day and thought it a waste..

to be honest im hoping to do this kind of work for a living and will need a unit rather then doing it at home so will re think about the gas may even try a tig welder..

i always give 2/3 coats of rust eater sealer and all panels new and old are given at least 2 good coats of pre weld primer stuff i buy. i also offer a cavity wax spray (not in the price of the weld mind for further protection). however there is never any guarantee of no rust returning i can not give that kind of promise, but all effort is given to stem the rot..

Now that the welders set up right

:wallbash:

£15 an hour!?

Drop me a PM, I'm local(ish) and tbh nothing looks worse than rust so I don't really care how you weld or how they look.. aslong as the rust goes and doesn't come back!

if you really want any work done on your 5 you need to give me a few weeks notice. because i only do work on them at the weekends im fully booked for the next 3 weeks

next sat hood fit service rad fit on a brg mk1 and sunday a timing belt water pump on a red mk2 the weekend after 3 services and 1 diff/gearbox oil change..

i will be honest im finding it hard as i cant leave my current job until my partner retires next year so im tied to only working on 5s at the weekend and there is only so much i can do

iv never been a greedy person as long as i get a fare price for a fare job im happy :yes:

Ps. just to add James collected his car tonight he had been away on a weekend to london with the boys..

i think he was pleased with the finished job as he defo wants the other side done along with loads of other stuff.

i also spoke to the garage owner who sent him to me today as he is doing a gearbox clutch on a friends c4 for me and he said his price to just patch over the weld would have been more than the 120.00 i charged james and said for the work i had done i should be charging a good bit more..

but as i have said as long as i make 15 to 20 per hour im happy.

no rust prevention or treatment would have been done and a coat of black sticky Schultz would have been aplied.

 

[ShaBro]

I may be wrong, but I think you may struggle to see your work properly through that mask, it's for an arc welder, I've always had to go for different shades with mig to be able to see I have to have an adjustable mask to use for both..... I'll probs get shot down in a minute though.