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Unleaded Or Super Unleaded

4.9K views 32 replies 22 participants last post by  Alex Robinson  
#1 ·
I had a chat with one of the guys at work today.. needless to say he did not know which was really better considering the price.

SO for you and your Mx5 do you take the regular or super fuel? What difference does it really make?

I take the regular due to cheaper price but I have heard that super gives you slightly better MPG.
 
#2 ·
i use super unleaded but i have got a turbo and tuned for it

standard car can't see the point in using super i would use normal stuff there is a post on here somewhere about the differences and it doesn't make any to a standard car
 
#6 ·
Is your MX5 stock?

If so there's no real point, it has additives which are used to clean internals, removing carbon deposits etc which is good. It may make a difference for say a turbo'd 5 as i'm sure turbo'd cars are more likely to pre-detonate. The higher the RON number the less likely the fuel is to detonate before the engine needs it to.
I hear It can be beneficial to newer cars as they have a more sophisticated ECU which adjusts to the type of fuel that you use.

It wouldn't hurt chucking it in now and then but usually I'll stick with Normal shell unleaded or similar.

Good video from fifth gear!
 
#8 · (Edited by Moderator)
I always run my cars on it (aside from shitters), for the sake of a few quid - V power is 8p a litre more than normal Shell fuel here, over a 40l fill up that's ÂŁ3.20 - I'd rather put fuel in with the better additives etc.
 
#12 ·
I always ran my MK1 1.8 on super. I had a head gasket failure and decided to buy a second hand head to recondition so I could swap them over in one day. The second hand head came from a car with comparable mileage, but the difference in terms of the state of the exhaust valves was massive. On my original head, there was a thin layer of buildup, whereas on the second hand one it was several mm thick in places. Now whether this was due to fuel, I can't say, and my car already had significant mileage on it before I bought it so I've no idea what it was running previously. But certainly there was a very dramatic difference in the condition between the two which I couldn't really explain.

I chuck a tank in every now and then. It's a few quid more and supposedly keeps the car working at its best. I doubt it'll give more mpg or power, on even the most advanced modern cars. But I view it as a form of preventative maintenance.
 
#15 ·
I always ran my MK1 1.8 on super. I had a head gasket failure and decided to buy a second hand head to recondition so I could swap them over in one day. The second hand head came from a car with comparable mileage, but the difference in terms of the state of the exhaust valves was massive. On my original head, there was a thin layer of buildup, whereas on the second hand one it was several mm thick in places. Now whether this was due to fuel, I can't say, and my car already had significant mileage on it before I bought it so I've no idea what it was running previously. But certainly there was a very dramatic difference in the condition between the two which I couldn't really explain.

I chuck a tank in every now and then. It's a few quid more and supposedly keeps the car working at its best. I doubt it'll give more mpg or power, on even the most advanced modern cars. But I view it as a form of preventative maintenance.
fuel definitely makes a massive difference to the inlet valve deposits on a pfi engine. It sprays directly onto the valves and the additives prevent and remove crap. I'm sure a quick Google of bp ultimate or shell v power will show some dramatic difference
 
#16 ·
I always ran my MK1 1.8 on super. I had a head gasket failure and decided to buy a second hand head to recondition so I could swap them over in one day. The second hand head came from a car with comparable mileage, but the difference in terms of the state of the exhaust valves was massive. On my original head, there was a thin layer of buildup, whereas on the second hand one it was several mm thick in places. Now whether this was due to fuel, I can't say, and my car already had significant mileage on it before I bought it so I've no idea what it was running previously. But certainly there was a very dramatic difference in the condition between the two which I couldn't really explain.

I chuck a tank in every now and then. It's a few quid more and supposedly keeps the car working at its best. I doubt it'll give more mpg or power, on even the most advanced modern cars. But I view it as a form of preventative maintenance.
fuel definitely makes a massive difference to the inlet valve deposits on a pfi engine. It sprays directly onto the valves and the additives prevent and remove crap. I'm sure a quick Google of bp ultimate or shell v power will show some dramatic difference
My bit of googling came up with this to remind us even Shell get it very wrong from time to time, I can remember a time when Police Granada 2.8i`s used to blow-up within seconds of going into pursuit mode, brilliant stuff :thumb-up:
 
#17 ·
Bit off topic but if you map a turbo 5 on standard and then run regularly on super any benefits/issues? I think there has been a recent thread on this but couldn't find it
 
#18 ·
I occasionally run my N/A engine on super unleaded, and I can tell quite a difference
In that case my friend, come over here i have some an 'electric turbocharger' that will give you up to 500 extra bhp!!!!1!

RSC, using super in a fi'd car thats been mapped with 95ron, will have no ill effect...but you'll make less power for a given psi, because you can't have such aggressive timing.
 
#19 · (Edited by Moderator)
RSC, using super in a fi'd car thats been mapped with 95ron, will have no ill effect...but you'll make less power for a given psi, because you can't have such aggressive timing.
Cheers Alex, it'll be remapped in a few months once I get used to it and fit a more suitable 2.5"-3" exhaust system
 
#22 ·
RSC, using super in a fi'd car thats been mapped with 95ron, will have no ill effect...but you'll make less power for a given psi, because you can't have such aggressive timing.
you'll make less power than you would be able to if you were mapped for 98 but simply switching fuel from 98 to 95 on an engine mapped for 98 will have no impact on power - you've already reduced it with your timing map. In this case, 98 will give you a little safety margin against knock especially if you've mapped close to the limit on 95 and maybe don't have much retard with high iat's etc
 
#23 ·
The 5 gets regular and super. It does run a little smoother on super and it's what I use on Trackdays etc. THismaybe because I run the timing more advanced that standard.

The Civic always uses V-Max Nitro Super Mega Uber Jet Fuel or whatever shell call it this week because it runs like an absolute bag of arse on regular when cold.
 
#25 ·
^lol
 
#26 ·
It's all a load of FUD and Derp...

If you have a normal 5...use normal unleaded, you do not have a wideband o2, you do not have a knock sensor. Any possible improvements are negligable and Roadsterblue, it may be your opinion, but i'm 100% that there will be no actual difference in either maximum power, or fuel consumption.