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Draining Oil From The Dipstick....

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#1 ·
After completing an oil/filter change on the family Golf for the first time I've managed to get some 'splashback' on our block paved drive :blush:

Much scrubbing with thinners said oil is now removed (Thank God) Some googling/youtubing later and having seen people changing oil via the dipstick using syphon systems and it looks to be a much cleaner and more civilized way of doing things.... I'm a complete newb RE car maintenance and where-as I'd like to save money by doing more bits on the Golf/Eunos myself, I also don't want to induce the wrath of Mrs Precision (Again)

Are any of you lot doing changes this way and if so what pumps etc are you using?

As always and advice/thoughts, or even better links to suitable pumps to use would be greatfully recieved :)
 
#3 ·
^ Cheers. FWIW I'd put an old rug down and thought I had my bases covered but still managed to get some on the drive :baseballbat: My thoughts are that given I've got two cars and four oil changes a year to do in the long run it might make life easier/safer too? I always feel pretty vulnerable under a car that's up on stands however carefull I've been...

The one that's cought my eye ATM is this Pela item...http://www.mailspeedmarine.com/oil-extractor-pump-37774.html?utm_source=google_shopping&gclid=CKezu6nC_skCFasEwwodp94Ajw

And here's a video of it in use....

I appreciate I'll still have to deal with the odd dribble when changing the filter but over all it does seem much easier/cleaner...
 
#4 ·
I have used one several times. The one that I bought was a Pela 6000 Oil Extraction Pump, the cheapest place to buy it at the time was a yacht chandlers!

It worked quite well on my dry-sumped Caterham because there was no sump tank with baffles for the oil to collect in. However if you have a baffled sump it's probable that you would not be able to suck all the oil out. Also there is no substitute for looking at what's collected on a magnetic sump plug especially after several (hard) track days! I would use it for interim oil changes (every 2000 miles) but would take the sump plate off for full oil changes every 6000 miles.

It was excellent for changing the oil in the diff and gearbox because they where so hard to get to.

The biggest problem is it could take a long time if the oil wasn't fully up to temperature, it needed to be hot and runny!

For the cost I wouldn't really recommended it...
 
#5 ·
Drop the oil the conventional way, always have done. It's a pain grovelling under the car on the driveway, but if you've done a Mk3 oil filter change then the removing replacing the sump plug is a piece of piss.

Others will say it's a good idea to suck the oil out but I prefer not to.
 
#6 ·
I use one of those Pela 6000 siphon pumps too. Makes things a lot quicker and cleaner. As above, an online chandler will be the cheapest place to get one as boat engines often don't have any way to drain the oil from below. The only remaining puzzle is how to change the oil filter without spilling any.
 
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#11 ·
I've got one of these on mine which makes it a really tidy job;

http://www.quickvalve.co.uk/

I don't have the barb on mine, but you can get one like this;

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You can then just attach a length of hose and drain directly into a can. Very tidy.

Had mine on my car for nearly 4 years with no problems and a moment of joy/smugness at every oil change.
That does look handy :thumb-up: I'm not sure I'd ever be able to stop worrying about what would happen if the valve somehow failed whilst driving though :eek:

If you don't like going under the car when it's on stands, buy some cheap ramps and extenders from somewhere like MachineMart.

Should only cost around ÂŁ40 or so and they're safer, quicker and easier than jacking the car up all the time.
I actually have ramps, and whereas I do prefer them to stands this system does seem a little cleaner and less 'involved' route to an oil change... I've spent extended periods of time under the car undersealing/doing slave cylinders etc so I'm not totally adverse to it if it's necessary, the heart of the issue is that I'm lazy and these set ups seem like a great way to make life a bit easier.
 
#12 ·
pela thing is good but an electric pump is quicker. any old oil can will do.

good point re the magnetic oil plug, if you have one fitted.
 
#15 ·
That does look handy :thumb-up: I'm not sure I'd ever be able to stop worrying about what would happen if the valve somehow failed whilst driving though :eek:
As far as I'm aware, these were designed for aviation use. My reasoning when I bought mine was that if it's good enough for a plane, it's good enough for my car. Like I said, 4 years and counting with no problems but plenty of easy oil changes :D
 
#17 · (Edited by Moderator)
That does look handy :thumb-up: I'm not sure I'd ever be able to stop worrying about what would happen if the valve somehow failed whilst driving though :eek:
As far as I'm aware, these were designed for aviation use. My reasoning when I bought mine was that if it's good enough for a plane, it's good enough for my car. Like I said, 4 years and counting with no problems but plenty of easy oil changes :D
I've softened to the idea and put my worries to one side, I now have one of these on order so thanks for the link :) The deciding factor was that the Pela 6000 isn't compatible with my Golf as the 1.4 model's disptick cylinder is too thin even for the tiny tube on the pump to get throught...

Edit to say I've still bought a Pela, but I'll be using that purely for oil changes on the Eunos!
 
#18 ·
i love changing oil with one of these

i often do several cars at same time as it's always a little messy

of course with the mx you need booster cables to extend power to the engine bay.
 
#19 ·
That does look handy :thumb-up: I'm not sure I'd ever be able to stop worrying about what would happen if the valve somehow failed whilst driving though :eek:
As far as I'm aware, these were designed for aviation use. My reasoning when I bought mine was that if it's good enough for a plane, it's good enough for my car. Like I said, 4 years and counting with no problems but plenty of easy oil changes :D
I've softened to the idea and put my worries to one side, I now have one of these on order so thanks for the link :) The deciding factor was that the Pela 6000 isn't compatible with my Golf as the 1.4 model's disptick cylinder is too thin even for the tiny tube on the pump to get throught...

Edit to say I've still bought a Pela, but I'll be using that purely for oil changes on the Eunos!
Did you get one with the barb or without?
 
#20 ·
I assume you mean the 'nipple' (For use with the hose) as I never spotted any mention of a barb.... If so then yes, I also ordered a length of the correct sized hose too :)
 
#21 ·
Has the world gone maaad!!! If you want to change the oil, use the sump plug, if you don't want to get oil everywhere , use a cat litter tray from the local ÂŁ1 shop , sorted !! If you still get it everywhere a large sheet of plastic will stop any drops from the filter etc , all these add on's are really not needed IMO
 
#22 ·
Has the world gone maaad!!! If you want to change the oil, use the sump plug...
Once I might have agreed, but now I can drive home from work and put the car in the garage, stick the pump hose in the dipstick tube, pump it a few times and go and have a cup of tea.

Come back later and pour fresh oil in. No need to so much as kneel down, let alone jack the car up and crawl around underneath.
 
#24 ·
Has the world gone maaad!!! If you want to change the oil, use the sump plug...
Once I might have agreed, but now I can drive home from work and put the car in the garage, stick the pump hose in the dipstick tube, pump it a few times and go and have a cup of tea.

Come back later and pour fresh oil in. No need to so much as kneel down, let alone jack the car up and crawl around underneath.
What about the oil filter??
 
#25 ·
Has the world gone maaad!!! If you want to change the oil, use the sump plug...
Once I might have agreed, but now I can drive home from work and put the car in the garage, stick the pump hose in the dipstick tube, pump it a few times and go and have a cup of tea.

Come back later and pour fresh oil in. No need to so much as kneel down, let alone jack the car up and crawl around underneath.
What about the oil filter??
change my filter every 12k or so. every 2 - 3 years. oil more frequently by pump, especially track car. interim dipstick changes keep things clean and additives refreshed.
 
#26 ·
Im with roadrunner on this. Its one of the simplest jobs on the car and people are trying to complicate it!

Dropping the oil is the easy and none messy part, I rarely lose a drop.

The filter on the other hand is the messy one. Id say a filter relocation kit would be money better spent if you want to avoid mess?