A Dyno that isnt rated past 350bhp???!! They cant get much business?

Still, the cars sounds awesome!

 

There was one at a garage I used rated to 200bhp -

- they specialised in RX7's too!

Is that a computech charger? S2K + charger are rediculously quick cars, i'd love one

 

I love S2000's. Beautiful cars and an SC one sounds awesome

 

can't wait to get home and watch this vid.

S2k's are lush..... few more year and maybe I could afford one

 

My friend Andy who used to work at RPM had two different Dyno's.

The first was a low powered dyno which attracted the attention of low powered hot hatches, Andy's cup car was only running 190bhp. Andy claimed that a lower rated Dyno will give a more accurate rating for lower powered cars.

The second rolling road was rated upto 700bhp, this was used for the high powered cars running in excess of 350bhp. We tried my runabout car on this, just to prove a point, it wasn't powerful enough to even get a read out.

 

Me mates floggin his, only had it a few months, said it's the worst car he's ever owned, and he has a smart as well

 

the Smart's are awesome

 

I've just been informed it's actually a Vortech Supercharger.

I stand corrected, said the man in the orthopaedic shoes..

For any Honda heads out there, the final spec of the car is:

Vortech Supercharger, AEM EMS, RC650cc Injectors, 10psi pulley, Sard FPR, Walbro Fuel Pump, NGK Iridum Plugs, Modify Temp Fix, SPA Oil Temp/Pressure Gauge, AEM UEGO Gauge, Amuse Twin Meter Panel, ACT Clutch, Mugen Exhaust, Berks De-Cat, DBA Disks, Ferodo Pads, Volks CE28NF wheels, Bridgestone RE050 tyres, Lower Brake Master Cylinder Brace, Muz Mats, VTEC Camera Mount, CR Radio Door and Gear Knob

And a pair of Mugen socks

 

Ouch nice,

Aint they hard cars to drive at the best of times, never mind with all that extra power to the rear?

 

Doh

 

They get a bad reputation, and I know a guy that put one on it's side, but any time I've driven it it's been fantastic, and Chris, the owner, has had it for a few years now and is chuffed to bits with it. Each to their own I suppose.

Still, with this sort of power it'll need alot of respect on the roads

I wouldn't fancy hitting Vtec halfway round a fast corner

 

The big question - how much has that supercharger conversion cost (regardless of all the other mods listed above)?

 

He reckons about ?6k, including fitting and tuning...

Here's his build thread -

Clickeroo

As I said, he had a bit of a nightmare at the start

 

I think it's superb value for money. I've just been out in it again in the traffic, and it's perfectly tractable and docile when you want it to be, but if there's enough road and you give it some stick there's very little that'll keep up with it. He's hopefully going to get some in car footage of it so I'll stick it up when he does.

 

Mark, get of the fence FFS!

 

I'm honestly not that fussy about me cars, i'd really drive owt if it gets me about.
I've driven a few S2000's the later ones chassis is noticeably better, no idea why or what Honda did. (by better i mean it's like your getting slapped in the face now rather than punched, so the worst of 2 evils).

If someone GAVE me a S2000 today, FOC then 100% honestly it would be in the paper by tonight fer sale.
I absolutely love Honda's, i would not buy any other bike for day to day use except a Honda.
Everything from the nuts and bolts they use to their reliability and quality control is just a fair margin better than their competitors.

The older Civic Type R is a great car, the Integra Type R an outstanding car, both a bit rev happy fer me and my style, but still great cars.

BUT with the S2000 they missed the boat by a fair margin, the MX5 is a infinitely better car, even the MKI Audi TT makes the S2000 feel like a Cortina estate in the handling department.

If you like the looks of the S2000 fair enough.
If you have driven one though and you believe it handles well, you are either wrong or you've never driven a half decent car.

 

If you have driven one though and you believe it handles well, you are either wrong or you've never driven a half decent car.

I normally respect your opinion, but that's just plain bullshit.

Look up 'PJL S2000' on Youtube and explain how he manages to get past almost everything he comes up against. Yes, he's a good driver but come on....

 

My bro was looking at a Nissan 350z, BMW Z4 3litre and an S2000. He went Z4. He's now getting rid of the Z4 but he seemed to think the S2K at the time was no good unless you live out in the sticks as under normal city driving conditions it didn't show off its capabilities. He said you had to really push it to feel the fun. Or something like that. I can't remember his words exactly cos this was a few years back. I've driven the Z4 and I liked it. Still think it's bulky and not a true roadster and I don't like chunky cars. I would love to drive an S2K cos they've always appealed to me.

 

I have owned an mx5 turbo and have just bought an S2000

and i have never heard such bloocks in my life ... its your opinion on the car but the s2000 is yes a tricky car to handle but much more of a drivers cars that the rather gutless 1.6/1.8 mx5s, to get the mx5 anywhere near what it was suppose to be a turbo or supercharger is required even then it still feels a bit limp wristed.

no offence intend to anyone the mx5 is a cracking car but in comparison to the s2000 its way behind

 

No offence taken here, i 100% agree that the stock 5 feels gutless compared to other hot hatches, sports cars.

It does seem to take on another character after 200bhp, i'd be more than happy to meet you at donny Mallory etc the next time i'm over in the UK.
I should be bringing my car over for JAE, i'm very confident over 15 laps i'll beat a stock S2000 and fairly confident i'd give a mildly modded S2 a run for it's money.

It is my opinion that the S2000 handles like shite yes, but it's not only my opinion, my friend also agrees that's why he's selling it, as does EVERY person that's so far driven his car or any person i know that opinion i trust that has driven a S2000.

It was also slated by a fair few of the trusted mags, Evo in particular were pretty scathing in their reviews, i'll have to check but i think the old model was marked a 3 out of 5 and the new only a 4 out of 5.
The stock MKII MX5 was rated higher.

Cheers
Mark

Again the later cars were better than the earlier versions, but even then the reviews were not good compared to say the Boxster.

I think it's aloso a fair indication of the cars bad handling by how many have been crashed, we were talking about this last time i was in the UK, my mate works for a body repairers, he commented on how it's odd that near on every single S2000 he see's has damage to the rear sector.
He thought it was very similar to the 205Gti as that was another car he noticed the majority of damage was also to the rear half.

 

Granted the handling in a s2000 isnt as easy as an mx5 but they did alter the suspension setup on the AP2 S2000 to allow for a more easy to control approach to driving ...

reason why many are spun is the v-tec and people not showing the car the respect it deserves the S2000 can not be driven with a heavy foot or it will snap back ....

let me know the next time your in the UK (dont mean this to sound arrogant) i would love to see the mx5 / s2000 round a track its something i would be interested in

 

Aye the S2 is a hell of a lot more difficult to catch when the limit of grip is exceeded, if your near this limit and the Vtech kicks in unless your ready it's probably gonna bite ya in the ass

Your in Nottm right?
Me family is in Nottm so that's where i stay when i'm over, i'm sure we can sort summet out at Donny, Mallory etc.

Next time i'm over i'm gonna give trackrat a call and see if his mx5 is available, it's gonna be a bit difficult as it's a manual, but i'm sure we could sort summet out.
On the National donny track i think the S2 will have the legs on a stock 5, but at Mallory i think a stock 5 and a S2 would be bloody close with similar experianced drivers.
I would love to go against a S2 in my car on Donny.
I honestly believe i'd have it, but i have bin wrong before and i am biased

I've only ever come across 1 S2 here during the race nights, we comfortably beat that but to be 100% honest the driver was a complete twat and had no idea, so i don't think that's a fair representation.

We had planned to race with me mates S2, but he's only had it on the road fer 1 week without problems/running it in, now he's had problems again it looks like it's gonna be gone afore it's run in.

Cheers
Mark

 

yeah nottingham .. donny would be good but not a handling curcuit more high speed corners that anything...

Will be interesting to see

 

Pheunos, your mates in NI i guess?

Be even better to see what a FI'd S2 could do.

Do you think a FI'd S2 i'd make it to Donny though?

 

Yeah, he's in Holywood, just down the road from me. I'd be amazed if a 5 in any state tune would keep up with him tbh. I did a few track days with him before he was FI'd and his car just walked away from mine. No debate whatsoever, and I was 100% committed.

Not sure how reliable it'll prove to be, I guess time will tell. I'll point him this way and see if he's up for 'The Donny Challenge', however he might not take too kindly to some of the comments about his baby....

He's already suggesting your mates car is a cut 'n' shut

 

that would be an wesome comparrison NA S2 Na MX5 and FId S2 and FId MX5 round track .. hummmm im up for this now ...

 

Seems a fair enough example of an S2K - I reckon yer dreamin if you think with equal drivers a stock '5 could keep up with an S2K meself matey

 

i dunno mate asking on the old s2000 forums they are pretty much undecided too .. could be in for a bit of a battle

 

Slowpoke it'll really depend on the track, on a open track like ya vid they'd be no contest a stock S2 would annihilate a stock 5, even if the driver in the 5 was schuuy and the driver in the S2 was average.

I think 2 equal drivers in a 240bhp 5 and a S2 would be bloody close though on that track.

The way i see it though is you've got 2 levels here, you've got.

1/ Great drivers.
These will bring anything from a golf cart to the ragged edge, even if you went go-carting these guys/gals seem to find speed and traction from out there bloody sleeves.

2/ Average drivers.
Done track days and have a fair bit of experience and confidence.
Some of these maybe 1% would if given enough seat time and dedication make it up a level but even if they were racing 40 hours a week 99% would always stay average.

3/ Normal drivers.
People who've had no real experience on tracks but are fairly confident on the road.

Go on a bit i know, but please stay with me

So a great driver would use every 1bhp extra and 1kg lighter to get every fraction of the performance out of the car.
After say 5 laps they'd get to within 1 sec of their fastest lap, they'd then continue to lap within 1/2sec of each and every other lap consistently.

A average driver would probably do 1 faster lap in the S2, but after a "moment" the other laps would slow until another fast lap and another "moment".

In the 5 the average driver would quickly find the limit of the car (for them) and i'd be happy to stay pretty damn close to that limit without many major "moments"

So to conclude, in my opinion i think the vast majority of drivers here we are talking Average Joes/Janes, so out of say 15 laps, the fastest lap time would be the S2k.
BUT the fastest time over 15 laps i recon would be the FI'd 5.

Purely because it's friendlier up to and slightly over the limit.

Might well be absolute bollox but that's my opinion right now.

Pheunos,
Be nice if it was, at least they'd be some logic to that, thing is though he's got the full history and knows the 1 previous owner.
It'd also make sense if it was say me, cause i'm known fer being hard on cars and bikes, but me mate really looks after his cars and very rarely thrashes em.

Thing is is English is not too good and he's using Greek words i don't know, but i think:
The a piston broke it's rings, these were replaced and during the run in summet went with the cam springs.

As i say i'm filling in some big gaps there, when i see him again i'll get a translator

 

I think 2 equal drivers in a 240bhp 5 and a S2 would be bloody close though on that track.

I agree fella, it's s2k vs stock '5 that I think'd be the walk over.

Here's the vid I was looking for origionally -

Bye Bye '5, Tsukuba's a twisty track too

 

I hear so many conflicting tales of S2000's

I really am going to have to drive one myself

 

Mmmm ditto

 

Good to see most people on here are genuine car enthusiasts.

I have owned and drive MX5's and rate them extremely highly, I moved onto an S2000 around 12 moths ago, and contrary to what people say it is a fairly docile car until it's in vtec which is where all of the fun happens.

I love the S2000 like I loved my MX5 they have the same kind of spirit, front engined little or no aids brilliant handling and an open top. The S2000 was the natural progression for me and is very similar to the MX5 in many respects.

It seems strange why people like Glixer(???), (who probably hasn't driven one or he would know) would berate such an iconic and fantastic sports car such as the S2000 when it is essentially a very similar formula to the MX5.

I have done many miles in both and YES the standard S2000 is much faster than my 1.8is was in every respect but that is to be expected in a car that cost a 10k+ premium, but comparing the performance of the MX5 to an S2000 is like comapring the performance of and S2000 to a Carrera S!

On the S2000 forum the MX5 is spoken very highly of as most of the people on there are car enthusiasts like MOST people on here, but to label the S2000 as shite is very narrow minded, maybe Glixer should actually drive one.

The reason why I am here? Word of this thread got onto s2ki where I feel the MX5 gets a lot of respect there are plenty of ex owners on there, as an ex MX5 owner I am gutted that I didn't know about this site, but just felt that some may appreciate alittle reality and perspective!

Urban Sports

 

Hi mate, welcome to Nutz! We accept all sorts here

One of the women at my local meet has (at least one) MX5 and also now got an S2000. Like you say, in many ways the cars are similar, you just get a helping hand with speed straight from the factory, we have to do it afterwards!

 

Actually I seriously toyed with the idea of a supercharger for mine at the time but getting married meant I was forced to sell, I always really wanted an S2000 and financial changes allowed me to get one, the only thing I dislike about the S2000 is the insurance costs they are very steep.

Funny how a few of the fellas now on s2ki are going the FI route and are running 350+ bhp, they are seriously quick, although many have just gone for basic geometry alignment in the handling departmentwhich seems enough. The S2000 are like any high bhp RWD car you need concentration.

I would love a go of a 220+ supercharged MX5, very tasty!