New Fm Coilover Kit

Mr Slow

· #2 · Mar 31, 2010

Wooooahhh

Wasn't expecting that!

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ric

· #3 · Mar 31, 2010

sybez said:
Saw this posted yesterday over on miata.net and thought it might be of interest here for peeps...

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=5635&parentid=0&stocknumber=13-16210%20%201990-97

Does this mean that those uber cheap raceland ones on eBay are worth a second look? Obvious question is what have fm done to them, and how do we do the same to the eBay stuff?

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Raydar27

· #4 · Mar 31, 2010

it reads as though they have changed the spring wieghts to ones better suited to the five

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ric

· #5 · Mar 31, 2010

Raydar27 said:
it reads as though they have changed the spring wieghts to ones better suited to the five

aye. next question: where can you get springs of a specific spring rate from? I'm a suspension noob but if it's possible for us to develop a Nutz special then I think we should go with it...!

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sybez

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 31, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

Faulkner Springs would prob be your best bet, varying lengths, sizes and spring rates. I have bought from demon tweeks beofore but there site seems to be down at the moment. You may be able to go direct to Faulkner as well....

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poopipe

· #7 · Mar 31, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

these aren't the same as the uber cheap raceland jobs are they?

these are around £450 on ebay, by the time you've sorted springs etc. you might as well have gone BC, GAZ or P5 etc.

I'm sure you could swap the springs on the cheap ones too but you'd have to buy lots of different springs to figure out which ones are best

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sybez

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 31, 2010

The secondary springs are 112 lb/in, which gives them enough strength to overcome the damping of the shock and stay active. The primary rates are 391 lb/in in the front and 258 lb/in in the rear,

Just need to know the lengths and your away.... I'm sure the coilvers could be boughjt without springs if they are the same as teh ebay ones...

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Wee T

· #9 · Mar 31, 2010

Why would anyone consider buying cheap coilovers and then start buying new springs on top of that.It defeats the idea of getting a good suspension set up cheap.By the time you've got them sorted you could well be into the price of a good set of the not so cheap coilovers.

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nmwisima

· #10 · Mar 31, 2010

These are the Racelands coilovers though, thats obvious.

Which, by the way, according to a Greek suspension-thing guy, are pretty easy to
revalve by opening and changing oils.

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poopipe

· #11 · Mar 31, 2010

nmwisima said:
These are the Racelands coilovers though, thats obvious.

you're sure?

i can't see helper springs on the racelands that google immediately throws up.

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hooligan

· #12 · Mar 31, 2010

best buy some cheap ebay one now whist they are still cheap!

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nmwisima

· #13 · Mar 31, 2010

poopipe said:
These are the Racelands coilovers though, thats obvious.

you're sure?
i can't see helper springs on the racelands that google immediately throws up.[/quote]

Pic from my house. You really see any difference?

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poopipe

· #14 · Mar 31, 2010

i do not.

I still have my doubts - Wee T is right in that it's probably not worth it. Decent springs will be 150ish, the helper springs aren't going to be much less I'm sure so even at 150 a set you're not saving a great deal over Konis etc and you don't get the damper adjustment.

anyone got any idea what the setup would cost from FM after shipping/import rape etc. ?

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godders

· #15 · Mar 31, 2010

V-Maxx are very much different to Racelands. Different springs/internals/mounts. Much stiffer too.

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sybez

Discussion Starter · #16 · Mar 31, 2010

Faulkner springs are about ?25 each depending on length and rate. Helpers are about half that....

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ginger nutz

· #17 · Mar 31, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

nmwisima said:
These are the Racelands coilovers though, thats obvious.

you're sure?
i can't see helper springs on the racelands that google immediately throws up.[/quote]

Pic from my house. You really see any difference?

[/quote]
Also the shock body is longer, suggesting it may contain more oil.The helper spring is longer, the main spring is shorter, it could just be the photograph of course,

The helper spring is at the bottom and the fm is on the top, unsure if it makes any difference to performance.

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sybez

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 31, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

The one pictured sat on the cardboard looks like a rear damper....

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ginger nutz

· #19 · Mar 31, 2010

sybez said:
The one pictured sat on the cardboard looks like a rear damper....

True

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ric

· #20 · Apr 1, 2010 (Edited by Moderator)

ginger nutz said:
The one pictured sat on the cardboard looks like a rear damper....

True
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Some reading from Miata.net:
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=371583&highlight=v-maxx

the "eBay coilover" monster thread:
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?t=289656&highlight=v-maxx

Going thru this stuff now...

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