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currently 19 but after july when im 20 it turns out i can FINALLY get insured on an rx

and they are pretty much the one car out of everything that I REALLY REALLY want to own

just wondering if anyone on here has one and can tell me what they reckon of them compared to a
5 and before anyone says, im fully aware of how much petrol and oil they drink e.c.t but im thinking
of getting one to use at weekends and drift days e.c.t and keep my 5 for the week and daily running

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There was a thread a while back about RX ownership.

I had a '93 Type R1 back in '97-'99 (jeezus was it that long ago) to this day it has to be in the top 3 of cars I've owned.

I'd imagine running cost have come down alot from when I had mine but it's still going to be way more expensive to run than any 5 especially considering the cost of super unleaded these days, and I hate to think what your insurance will be at 20, I was 22 when I bought mine and I was paying just over a grand and that was 12 years ago.

What is it like compared to a 5.... the only characteristic that is similar is steering feel very 5-esque although a little heavier, not much else from memory the power on stock sequential turbo's is almost instantaneous making good boost by 1500rpm and de-catted with a good aftermarket exhaust will pull very well to the limiter without running out of puff.

One thing to bear in mind is there's no electronic safety nets on RX's with instant throttle response + twitchy chassis can =


Find a good one and you'll love it I'm sure.
 

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Never owned one but they look amazing and are nice and speedy- very tunable too if your into it! Steves (mx5 motors) has got a lovely one running well over 800 bhp at the wheels I think he said maybe more.

At 20 though you better have got a good job to run one but if you are looking at weekends shouldnt be too bad. I couldnt afford to run 2 cars never mind 1 high maintenance. You will need to look after it nicely though

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Never owned one but they look amazing and are nice and speedy- very tunable too if your into it! Steves (mx5 motors) has got a lovely one running well over 800 bhp at the wheels I think he said maybe more.

At 20 though you better have got a good job to run one but if you are looking at weekends shouldnt be too bad. I couldnt afford to run 2 cars never mind 1 high maintenance. You will need to look after it nicely though

DO IT!
yeh undoubtably one of the best looking jap cars once done right, I would also most definately be "tuning" it
wow id like a passenger ride in that!
that must be absoloutely MENTAL

I think I should easily be able to run it over weekends and the odd drift/track day, running two cars might be interesting... il have to look in to insurance e.c.t yeh i can see frequesnt oil changes e.c.t on the cards..
 

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Personally if you like it enough and can afford to insure and buy it then go for it. You will find out after a couple of months if you can afford the servicing costs and petrol costs. Well maybe 6 months until you give it an oil change. I often find then when something is said to be bad and you know about it at least you will be prepaired and it will probably seem less worse than it actually is (if this makes sense). Basically not as bad as you were expecting.

Again if you are only using it at weekends then go for it. At least having two cars means you can have it off road to spend time tuning it properly. I keep thinking about FI on my 5 but its my only car so cant afford to have it offroad for too long.

Like it has been said its easily the best looking Jap car out there! Although there are a few decent looking ones now days... 350z ummmmm
 

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I've owned one, though an fc turbo so non seq. and a bit more lardy. I have driven a few fd turbo's and ridden in even more. And as I know you, I could write you a short novel on why its a bad idea. However they are sex on wheels, and nothing sounds as good as a tuned turbo rotary. The Idle is savage, and they WAIL on the throttle. Not to mention the out of this world performance.

I would be in the hunt for one myself but they are still worth as much as a 911 so you know where my heart is.

As you said. Even if its only for a few months. Get one. I had mine when I was your age and the insurance was stupid expensive, but somehow worth it.
 

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Go to the Mazda Rotary Club (MRC)there are loads of people on there willing to give you advice and info

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i have a FD (1st type) in Japan now

on mine... it eats the tyre very quickly
drinks about half liter of engine oil about 1000km-ish
average mpg (non agressive driving) is about 13mpg
it always break down on unexpecting stuff. mine recently had the turbo backing hose broken because of heat.. probably, and I couldnt find the way to fit it myself so I went to mazda dealer (JDM mazda dealer is GOOD)

rotary engine is due in for a rebuild every 100000km or about, this is the number where people ususally rebuild it before too late. of course i dont mean if you dont rebuild it your engine will blow in no time but I said 'recommanded', you know what I mean

terminal death overheating is 125 degrees compare to normal piston cars 100-ish?
OEM thermostat opens at 85 degrees IIRC, if you are modding it bear in mind that you need a good balance of fuel injection and spark plug 'number' as if they dont match you will have rough idling and bad misfiring, I mean bad enough to stall your car and idle rev drops to 300rpm or lower

other than that, everything is rather expensive to fix
but in return you get the best 90's japanese super sports car

oh... and here are the service intervals that most rx7 owners do
1000km top up engine oil
3000km oil change
10000-15000km spark plug change
15000km or every year, gearbox oil and diff oil change
10000km coolant change (coolant is very important to rotary)

You should always use specialist rotary oil. Some people mod their engine a bit for normal fully symp oil so far seems no problem but I dont really trust it as Mazda would have done it if really no harm. Rotary engine oil is about 20% more expensive than normal fully symp oil

PowerFC is highly recommanded
 

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Over 800 BHP at the wheels!!!

Are you sure, I know a few of the big power RX7's and that sounds very high to me?
A well modified Big Single Turbo 13B will normally be around the 4-500 RWHP figure, over 800 must be very special or something as sexy as a triple rotor :)

Never owned one but they look amazing and are nice and speedy- very tunable too if your into it! Steves (mx5 motors) has got a lovely one running well over 800 bhp at the wheels I think he said maybe more.

At 20 though you better have got a good job to run one but if you are looking at weekends shouldnt be too bad. I couldnt afford to run 2 cars never mind 1 high maintenance. You will need to look after it nicely though

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currently 19 but after july when im 20 it turns out i can FINALLY get insured on an rx

and they are pretty much the one car out of everything that I REALLY REALLY want to own

just wondering if anyone on here has one and can tell me what they reckon of them compared to a
5 and before anyone says, im fully aware of how much petrol and oil they drink e.c.t but im thinking
of getting one to use at weekends and drift days e.c.t and keep my 5 for the week and daily running

yum yum yum
I've owned a standard 2000 RS RX7 for 4 years. It's way faster than my supercharged MX5, more like piloting a rocket than driving. It's smoother to drive, effortless overtaking, good for high speed motorway and A road driving, stable at very high speeds. I pay ?250+VAT for an annual service and usual things like tyres on top and that's been it. I think it is one of the best looking cars ever made and so cheap for what you get. Depreciation is negligible now that they are almost all over 10 years old.

The downsides are :

- Group 20 insurance, most are modified which increases premiums further
- Be prepared for big bills if anything goes wrong. Rebuilds are ?3-4K.
- Few mechanics know how look after them, I have a 150 mile round trip for a service.
- Not as easy to drive as the MX5. The MX5 is safe when you do something stupid, you get plenty of warning and can correct mistakes. The RX7 will kill you.
- There is a definite 2-stage turbo feel, takes a bit of getting used to.
- No torque at low rpms.
- It's rubbish in the snow (I tried), need to be careful in the wet.
- Interiors are pretty rattly, early ones are poorly finished
- Emissions can be more difficult to pass the MOT

I get 18-20mpg but very little oil consumption, only need to top-up with one litre every year (3000 miles). The post-99 models are rare but have larger intakes for cooling.

MX5 = Fun
RX7 = Rocket

I run both at the same time like you will be but now getting the MX5 rotorised with an RX8 engine.

Have a read of Brian Long's book on the RX7 and there is a useful "Street Rotary" book as well, very useful info.

Jon.
 
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