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#1 coldclimate

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Posted 08 April 2015 - 07:53 PM

I've only started doing it recently because something told me I should.  I think the shift is smoother but is it worth it?


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 07:58 PM

You should be ashamed of yourself, granny shifting and not double-clutching like you should!


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 07:59 PM

Not...sure...if.............serious...
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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:04 PM

go watch some more F&F bro and don't worry about what a synchro is


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:05 PM

Your Lucky that 100 shot of NOS didnt blow the Welds on your Intake


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:07 PM

Woah, hang on guys.  Yes, genuine question, apologies for the american terminology.


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:38 PM

http://en.wikipedia....tch_(technique)

 

http://www.bobistheo...&Number=1116112

 

FWIW (Nothing) I frequently double clutch, but I also frequently up shift and downshift without using the clutch, and toe and heel.

 

Shifting without the clutch sometimes for fun... but also because my aftermarket pedal box and stage 3 clutch has made the clutch action heavy as hell, and sometimes shifting without the clutch is easier lol I also found that learning to shift without the clutch helped me get smoother on my toe and heel when using the clutch.


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:43 PM

@yetidragon Thanks for the links.  I used to have to clutchless shift is my old corsa sometimes (I think the clutch was shagged), it was oddly satisfying.


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:48 PM

I don't understand why anyone would do this in a standard car(or heavily modified for that matter.....what I meant was anything that isn't a big lorry!)?? I feel like I'm missing something/not understanding something?
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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:56 PM

I don't understand why anyone would do this in a standard car(or heavily modified for that matter.....what I meant was anything that isn't a big lorry!)?? I feel like I'm missing something/not understanding something?

depends on how modified...

not needed for synchro boxes, although IIRC on a box that the synchros are wearing it can make the shift smoother 

I believe is required on any dog box with out syncros, and they are still used quite a bit in high horse power or high load situations, mainly beacuse they are stronger I believe


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 08:56 PM

i have done it occasionally...and found it pretty pointless

 

hell-and-toe (or, "blip with one side of the foot"), however, i do essentially all the time. just because i can.

 

 

wide feet yo


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:03 PM

i have done it occasionally...and found it pretty pointless

 

hell-and-toe (or, "blip with one side of the foot"), however, i do essentially all the time. just because i can.

 

 

wide feet yo

 

This is standard enthusiast driving. If you cannot, you'll better be wearing high heels. :)


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:05 PM

Rev matching I do all the time, it's smoother and sounds awesome!! I can't do heel and toe as my feet are too narrow, I don't understand how anyone could do it in an mx5 with standard pedals....you must have giant feet lol
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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:08 PM

Pointless on a modern 'box but necessary on old abused boxes, heal and toe is just showing off lol.

I don't understand why anyone would do this in a standard car(or heavily modified for that matter.....what I meant was anything that isn't a big lorry!)?? I feel like I'm missing something/not understanding something?


Don't even do it in trucks anymore, they are all semi auto now. I chuckle every time I see the trucking top gear episode with them struggling to change gear, just stick it in D mate!
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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:11 PM

Rev matching I do all the time, it's smoother and sounds awesome!! I can't do heel and toe as my feet are too narrow, I don't understand how anyone could do it in an mx5 with standard pedals....you must have giant feet lol

Thats why its called HEEL and toe man, ball of foot on brake, heel blipping the accelerator. 


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:15 PM

Rev matching I do all the time, it's smoother and sounds awesome!! I can't do heel and toe as my feet are too narrow, I don't understand how anyone could do it in an mx5 with standard pedals....you must have giant feet lol

 

you're joking, right?  mx5 pedals are soo close together. they must have designe dit with H&T in mind

 

as a comparison, my dad's mazda 323 estate and the corsa i used to own before the mx5 i struggled to do that in due to the pedals being further out


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:21 PM

Isn't double clutching pointless on our gearboxes?

 

Heel and toe however, yes yes yes


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:26 PM

Not joking, I realise it's toe on brake and heel on throttle but I can't get enough pressure on the accelerateor without slamming on the brakes! Feels like the accelerator is too far back compared to the brake pedal!
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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:30 PM

try the other way round...hell on brake ;)


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Posted 08 April 2015 - 09:31 PM

As everyone else says, heal and toe in the mx5 is super simple. Have you checked the adjustment of your throttle cable recently?

 

On all the 5's I've driven, the accelerator looks to sit lower than the brake, but once Ive actually got my foot on the brake its about level with the throttle pedal, making for a really simple twist of the ankle and drop of the heal for a blip.


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