[hms]

I gather that Tim Lane will be going to the Maidenhead treasure hunt/Tech day/gp/BBQ on Sunday 12th. I also understand he will also be bringing samples of the bars for people to look at.
Planetmotorsports will be fitting a GP bar with diagonal and harness bar to the Hornet.
If anyone wants to come and have a poke around, see how difficult (or not) it is to fit a bar, you're more than welcome.
Full details of the day here:
http://www.planetmx5...opic.php?t=3951
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[Soulman]

Is it time for another group buy on these ?

[Wee T]

Stop bitching on this site.NO WAY.Hard Dog roll bar being the perfect design.It doesn't come anywhere near the perfect design.

Mac, on Apr 25 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

OK I'll just come out and say it - TR Lane, to stop the bitching on here and ensure you make a few more sales I suggest you buy a Hard Dog roll bar for 'research purposes' and use it on which to base your design. Obviously I don't mean copy it as that would be naughty

Then, you'll have what many feel to be the perfect design, make up a jig, and start bashing them out left right and centre. If you do that, you've cleaned up the UK market.

Please, anything to stop this thread carrying on any longer than it needs to

[Jamie]

Wee T, on Nov 30 2009, 12:40 PM, said:

Stop bitching on this site.NO WAY.Hard Dog roll bar being the perfect design.It doesn't come anywhere near the perfect design.

Mac, on Apr 25 2009, 04:10 PM, said:

OK I'll just come out and say it - TR Lane, to stop the bitching on here and ensure you make a few more sales I suggest you buy a Hard Dog roll bar for 'research purposes' and use it on which to base your design. Obviously I don't mean copy it as that would be naughty

Then, you'll have what many feel to be the perfect design, make up a jig, and start bashing them out left right and centre. If you do that, you've cleaned up the UK market.

Please, anything to stop this thread carrying on any longer than it needs to

That was posted a long time ago and TR lane have since improved their roll bar design.

[chrisimp]

lol back to todays question of a group buy, yes but price depending Id be interested. It looks like if your lucky enough you can get one for 3150 on ebay with the £100 fitting so 3250 or less Id be in.

I just want the basic one in black no extra bars or harness bits etc

Chris

[Soulman]

Soulman, on Nov 30 2009, 05:09 AM, said:

Is it time for another group buy on these ?

Bump.

What do you reckon folks ?

Too soon after Christmas for another group buy ?

[Adam A]

Soulman, on Dec 30 2009, 02:55 PM, said:

Soulman, on Nov 30 2009, 05:09 AM, said:

Is it time for another group buy on these ?

Bump.

What do you reckon folks ?

Too soon after Christmas for another group buy ?

It's too soon for me - Late Feb/Late March would be ideal

[worldwidewebs]

I'd be interested in a TD bar

[Dave-M]

I'd be interested too.. depends if their group buy price can compete with some of the crazy bargains of theirs that have been going on eBay!

[DannyLee]

I bought a TR Lane rollbar off ebay and it didn't fit my NA.

When I phoned up about this, it was suggested that the bar had missed an operation in production (shaping the bar to final dimensions)

[garyo]

I have a hard dog bar in my Mk2, and being 6'2" find that it's dangerously close to my head. This is despite having a foamectomy on standard seats. This adds more danger to a standard whiplash scenario to the extent that I need to do something about it.

Does anyone around Bracknell/Reading have a TD bar that I can compare to mine in terms of overall height, and fore-aft positioning? Or does anyone know the answers to my comparison questions?

Thanks

Gary

[Robie]

Gary I am in Oxford. If you are up here you can have a nose at mine if you like.

[paulm]

The placement and height is limited by clearance for the softop/hardtop. I would expect the HD bar and the TR Lane will be designed with the same clearances - ie as high and as far back as you can go but allowing for the roof.

The softop allows for more clearance than a hardtop, so if you never plan to use a hardtop you could get TR Lane to custom make the bar a bit higher up. When we designed my bar, it had to be about an inch shorter to clear the hardtop than softtop.

I'm 5'11" and run sparco FIA approved buckets which are at least a couple of inches 'lower' than the stock seats - I can get the MSA level of head clearance (20cm) only just.

If you are concerned about whiplash, a FIA spec fixed-back bucket would be the way to go - gets you lower down than the stock seat and they will deform less in an impact than a standard road seat. if you get steal framed 'low entry' ones they are very comfortable (in fact I found them a lot more comfortable long-distance then the stock seats).

Mine is mounted differently to the newer designs (my is mounted in-line with the seatbelt towers, the new designs sit closer to the driver and are mounted to the rear firewall), So my bar is further away from my head than the newer TR Lane bars and the hard-dog ones.

The MX5 is very tight for rollbar clearances (hence race cars can't even run with any kind of roof and still meet MSA specs, unless you managed to mount the seat right on the floor and aren't too tall!)

If you are worried about the clearances and want to retain the stock seats, I'd recommend going to see tim and he can measure you in the car and look at possible configurations.

garyo, on 23 February 2010 - 03:39 PM, said:

I have a hard dog bar in my Mk2, and being 6'2" find that it's dangerously close to my head. This is despite having a foamectomy on standard seats. This adds more danger to a standard whiplash scenario to the extent that I need to do something about it.

Does anyone around Bracknell/Reading have a TD bar that I can compare to mine in terms of overall height, and fore-aft positioning? Or does anyone know the answers to my comparison questions?

Thanks

Gary

[garyo]

Interesting. I'm going to remove the standard (with foam removed) seat tonight and sit in the car to see what my clearances are like at the theoretical maximum. I'd rather not go go a GRP shell seat if possible, but perhaps that's the only way.

Moving the pedal box is another option, of course, but I've not seem much discussion of that when searching around the archives so assume there's a fundamental problem with bulkhead clearances.

I'll report back in a few hours.

Gary

[garyo]

Well, the hard dog is within 1.5cm of the roof fabric, and probably will only just clear the fabric support bar that's just in front of it, so I don't think there's much to gain from replacing the roll bar.

Having sat on the floor of the car with no seat in place, I think I'm going to have another go at lowering the standard seat. I think I've removing all the foam I dare and am now being supported more by fabric and wire tension.

Gary